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if enacted, it would make michigan the 24th state with right-to-work laws. recent strikes at a california shipping port are over, but concerns of outsourcing persist. last week, striking workers protested that their jobs were being outsourced. employers denied sending jobs abroad. however, there is evidence that some industries are ramping up outsourcing. consulting firm the hackett group estimates since 2002, 663,000 jobs from large u.s. companies have gone abroad, mainly from industries like information technology, human resources, finance and purchasing. by 2016, the firm says another 375,000 jobs will have gone to places such as india, china, mexico and the philippines. just one day after apple reveals it will manufacture some of its products in the u.s., foxconn says it may follow suit. foxconn, apple's primary manufacturer in china, says it is considering expanding its operations in the u.s., where it currently has two factories. foxconn has seen its image suffer of late following revelations that workers are subjected to poor working conditions and ma
if enacted, it would make michigan the 24th state with right-to-work laws. recent strikes at a california shipping port are over, but concerns of outsourcing persist. last week, striking workers protested that their jobs were being outsourced. employers denied sending jobs abroad. however, there is evidence that some industries are ramping up outsourcing. consulting firm the hackett group estimates since 2002, 663,000 jobs from large u.s. companies have gone abroad, mainly from industries like...
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stuart: why is michigan doing this? i am told it is because neighboring indiana became right to work and attracted a whole bunch of jobs and michigan is jealous so they want to fall in line. is that the reasoning? >> right to work has been kicked around in michigan for decades. when indiana went right to work michigan took a look at that and said right to work states have lower unemployment, bigger population growth, bigger wage growth and when you factor in cost of living they have higher wages. we have to do something to compete because our neighbor next door is doing right to work and they attract business and we want those businesses to stay here so indiana going right to work probably played a big part of lawmakers's decision to give workers freedom to choose. stuart: are we dead certain that the governor will sign it in michigan? >> the governor said he would sign it at the beginning of his administration. said it wasn't on his agenda. last week he said was. yesterday at a press conference the senate majority lead
stuart: why is michigan doing this? i am told it is because neighboring indiana became right to work and attracted a whole bunch of jobs and michigan is jealous so they want to fall in line. is that the reasoning? >> right to work has been kicked around in michigan for decades. when indiana went right to work michigan took a look at that and said right to work states have lower unemployment, bigger population growth, bigger wage growth and when you factor in cost of living they have...
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michigan becomes the 24th so-called right to work state. this is being pushed by people like the koch brothers over all over the country. what does it mean, right to work? it prints requiring workers to pay union dues. it curbs the political power of labor and reduces collective bargainenbargaining rights. you do have to give your dues to the union but it's an optional tax law. how many people would pay tax it is it was just optional, not a lot, right? the way to destroy the unions by taking that money out of the system even though the unions wind up representing all the workers in most of those scenarios. now the other objective is to get the workers to fight with one another. the guys who want to pay the dues. the guys who don't want to pay the dues. this is how brilliantly it worked in michigan as the workers fight each other. >> i support everybody. i'm not for myself. >> it shouldn't be a condition of employment that you have to join an union and have to pay dodues as a condition of employment to feed your family. >> cenk: oh, the koch
michigan becomes the 24th so-called right to work state. this is being pushed by people like the koch brothers over all over the country. what does it mean, right to work? it prints requiring workers to pay union dues. it curbs the political power of labor and reduces collective bargainenbargaining rights. you do have to give your dues to the union but it's an optional tax law. how many people would pay tax it is it was just optional, not a lot, right? the way to destroy the unions by taking...
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here in michigan or creating a business here in michigan, you now as employees will have the choice whether to join a union or not to join a unit. >> do you have any sort of study to show this is in any way going to enhance the economy of michigan? can you point to other states? has this been a direct impact on their states, their economic viability. >> if you look at indiana, the amount of projects they are about to take and have undertaken have given their people a great tune to provide jobs in their communities. >> why do you think the governor changed his mind on this? a lot of people were talking, a lot of the contracts don't like it because they didn't like the process. it got pushed through quickly, and, b, the governor change the his mine the last couple months. >> the governor locked at it and said this is an opportunity that is here. it's bold. against it's historic because it puts michigan on the map as a place people are going to want to do business. >> why is an opportunity now and not before? >> he asked the leaders to stand down on it and they did not, so i'm not read
here in michigan or creating a business here in michigan, you now as employees will have the choice whether to join a union or not to join a unit. >> do you have any sort of study to show this is in any way going to enhance the economy of michigan? can you point to other states? has this been a direct impact on their states, their economic viability. >> if you look at indiana, the amount of projects they are about to take and have undertaken have given their people a great tune to...
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today i'll be talking to kerry mosse they sell you about protests related to a bill that could turn michigan into a right to work state and also be talking up author georgetown university professor a doll as gander about egypt unfinished revolution with only a few weeks left in two thousand and twelve all examine u.s. defense spending and look at some top secret programs on the pentagon's notorious black budget so without further ado let's break set. goals. all right guys let's talk some more about america's longest war afghanistan now there's been a lot of news recently about the failing war and ongoing occupation aside from the recent reports of the u.s. hosting tens of thousands of special operations troops on blackwater bases in the country after the two thousand and fourteen deadline it just came out that u.s. troops in afghanistan routinely target children on the battlefield yes you heard me right children according to one senior army officer children with potential hostile intent are now considered threats because the taliban sometimes uses them to assist with attack.
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this time in michigan. that after talking with house speaker john boehner over the weekend. their firps one on one in weeks. is that why republicans are saying they would swallow higher taxes for the right deal on spending cuts? we'll talk to tom cole who is making that case in just a few minutes. >>> bmw and mercedes are looking for the best selling luxury brand in the united states. wait until you hear what your money can get you these days. you're watching cnbc. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is q rea this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? >>> is the u.s. consumer in trouble? the front page on this morning's "wall street journal" says yes. but are holiday sales and shipping proving otherwise? courtney reag
this time in michigan. that after talking with house speaker john boehner over the weekend. their firps one on one in weeks. is that why republicans are saying they would swallow higher taxes for the right deal on spending cuts? we'll talk to tom cole who is making that case in just a few minutes. >>> bmw and mercedes are looking for the best selling luxury brand in the united states. wait until you hear what your money can get you these days. you're watching cnbc. ...so as you can...
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in michigan we've had a statute for some time. we had some controversy and we're under the old statute now. this goes back to many years where we had emergency manager status. they can come in, work with the city and resolve the issues in a more efficient fashion than the traditional way. get to an emergency like this, the traditional way wasn't working. >> aren't you at that point? i mean the unemployment rate, of course, in october of '09 is 25.5. i imagine a lot of people were discouraged and left and that's the decline to 18.9 but that's more than twice the national average. around you at an emergency in detroit? >> detroit has been in crisis for a long time. i think we should always try to work with the locally elected leaders first. my goal is not to run any particular city, it's to be a supportive partner. we've worked hard to strive to do that. we achieved results but now we aren't seeing the progress and we need to push ahead and get it resolved and better services to detroiters. >> i look at it from afar, because i don't
in michigan we've had a statute for some time. we had some controversy and we're under the old statute now. this goes back to many years where we had emergency manager status. they can come in, work with the city and resolve the issues in a more efficient fashion than the traditional way. get to an emergency like this, the traditional way wasn't working. >> aren't you at that point? i mean the unemployment rate, of course, in october of '09 is 25.5. i imagine a lot of people were...
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. >>> and outside the michigan lawmakers that bring chances to the union. >> good morning westbound, we will tell you more about the morning commute. >- .y÷$@y+o3vhpe . >>> good morning, there is a little bit of rain out there, cold and breezy, high in the 50s. >>> and time now 4:43, the man accused of kidnapping sierra lemar is scheduled to be arraigned on new charges. he faces three counts of kidnapping in connection with kidnapping three women in front of safe way stores. he is going to give a plea. >>> and in connection to homicide, victims were bound and gag. a not her late teens -- a woman in her late teens was found and the woman remains in critical condition. they arrested two men on murder charges and meanwhile tyler miller and another woman is charged with accessory to murder. >> there was extensive relationship between the victims and the suspect. >> reporter: police are not saying where they were beaten and shot or why they were left in the street. >>> they are confirming a long range rocket appears to have sent an object into orbit. this is new video of a massive victor
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thank you. >> now to lansing, michigan. protesters have invaded the michigan state capital over the right to work. >> the unions are on the ropes. [chanting] >> top democrats here in michigan say despite everything you see, despite all the show of force on the lawn forecast capital -- >> i wasn't talking to you. you put your hands on me, see what happens. >> this stage of the fight is really over. [chanting] >> in michigan it's going to play out just like it did in wisconsin. >> we are here to protest against right to work. >> this is giving workers the freedom to choose. >> what time is it? >> union time. >> what time is it? >> union time. >> what time is it. >> union time. >> the so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with the economy, they have everything to do with politics. >> in the end it's a shakedown for political contributions and the democrats do well with unions so they want unions to be really powerful. >> the governor of michigan is one greedy nerd, and he's one weak geek, and we aren't going to t
thank you. >> now to lansing, michigan. protesters have invaded the michigan state capital over the right to work. >> the unions are on the ropes. [chanting] >> top democrats here in michigan say despite everything you see, despite all the show of force on the lawn forecast capital -- >> i wasn't talking to you. you put your hands on me, see what happens. >> this stage of the fight is really over. [chanting] >> in michigan it's going to play out just like it...
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connell: groups of union workers expected to continue their protest against michigan becoming the nations 24th right to work state. dagen: we should point out, this just gives people the option of opting out from paying union dues. that is all that it does. the governor says he will not take on this divisive issue. low and behold, he is willing to sign it when it shows up on his desk. >> the governor did not want the kind of confrontation with unions, that, for instance, you saw in wisconsin. they put on a referendum on the november ballot saying we want to constitutionally banned the right of right to work. unions defeated the governor, one of the governor's favorite laws which is this emergency manager walt which he is trying to use to desperately save michigan cities that are desperately in trouble, including detroit. connell: he was forced, in your view. he maybe it would not have done it if it was not for that. >> the emergency managers law. connell: the idea that he is in support of it. [talking over each other] connell: is the union movement, you know, is it over, is the tide turni
connell: groups of union workers expected to continue their protest against michigan becoming the nations 24th right to work state. dagen: we should point out, this just gives people the option of opting out from paying union dues. that is all that it does. the governor says he will not take on this divisive issue. low and behold, he is willing to sign it when it shows up on his desk. >> the governor did not want the kind of confrontation with unions, that, for instance, you saw in...
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both houses of michigan's legislature have passed bills that would prohibit employers in michigan from forcing workers to join or support a union as a condition of employment. after wording differences are reconciled, michigan's governor is expected to sign it into law. "one of the arguments for right-to-work is that it is 'friendly' for business, you get extensive business investment." but protestors such as nurses hope to discourage the governor from signing the legislation. "things that we have, such as adaquate staffing, rest between shifts, those kinds of things would be gone if we didn't have collective bargaining." the pending legislation comes as daimler announced it would make a $100 million investment to build heavy-duty trucks and other vehicles at the company's redford facility in suburban detroit. "you're seeing millions go into this plant, so it disproves the argument." "i think it's a wonderful one- time deal. but we need more than one-time wonderful deals. we need a succession of them. capitalism is continuous." monday, president obama, who won re-election with united a
both houses of michigan's legislature have passed bills that would prohibit employers in michigan from forcing workers to join or support a union as a condition of employment. after wording differences are reconciled, michigan's governor is expected to sign it into law. "one of the arguments for right-to-work is that it is 'friendly' for business, you get extensive business investment." but protestors such as nurses hope to discourage the governor from signing the legislation....
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that's what president obama will be talking about in michigan today. keeping the public pressure on. but the part for the administrator point of view, tyler, is what do they live john boehner so he can bring his troops along, entitlement, spending cuts, to tell their members we got a good deal. >> john, i find it curious to find that president spent as much time as he has on the road trying to drum up support for this deal. we just had an election all about this. why does not white house figure that these kinds of appearances are helpful when both sides positions are pretty well locked in already? >> because this president and this white house have concluded that public pressure is what will make republicans bargain with him and deal on his terms. after the private grand bargain negotiations in the summer of 2011, they concluded they weren't simply going to do it behind closed doors with republicans. president went out and campaigned. he hammered republicans beginning in the fall of 2011. he won the election and he was trying to keep the pressure on to
that's what president obama will be talking about in michigan today. keeping the public pressure on. but the part for the administrator point of view, tyler, is what do they live john boehner so he can bring his troops along, entitlement, spending cuts, to tell their members we got a good deal. >> john, i find it curious to find that president spent as much time as he has on the road trying to drum up support for this deal. we just had an election all about this. why does not white house...
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president obama visiting an auto plant in michigan. he talked about the fiscal cliff and the need a middle class families. on c-span3, discussion about iran's security program. all that tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. "washingtonning on" journal" a look at the fiscal cliff. we will hear from jim do yle on how the fiscal clefted affected businesses and charles clark of the executive media group. earlier today, gene sperling reemphasize the obama registration tax on the wealthy. >> when you think again that we have an economy that is capable of having more winner take all outcomes. progressive taxation is not about redistribution. it is not about populism. it is about a national commitment to pay it forward. those of us who have benefited most from the innovation of the past seven obligation to pay for it to make sure we are giving this generation and the next generation the same building blocks in terms of education research so that they have the same chance to grow and prosper. in that sense, paying down deficits loss still investing is
president obama visiting an auto plant in michigan. he talked about the fiscal cliff and the need a middle class families. on c-span3, discussion about iran's security program. all that tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. "washingtonning on" journal" a look at the fiscal cliff. we will hear from jim do yle on how the fiscal clefted affected businesses and charles clark of the executive media group. earlier today, gene sperling reemphasize the obama registration tax on the wealthy....
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that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that's at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills that businesses are looking for right now, and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology and clean energy. i want to put people back to work rebuilding our roads and our bridges and our schools. [applause] that's how we grow an economy. i want us to bring down our deficits, but i want to do it in a balanced, responsible way. and i want to reward -- i want a tax code that rewards businesses and manufacturers like detroit diesel right here, creating jobs right here in redford, right here in michigan, right here in the united states of america. [applause] that's where we need to go. that's the country we need to build. and when it comes to bringing manufacturing back to america -- that's why i'm here today.
that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that's at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills that businesses are looking for right now, and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology and clean energy. i want to put people back to work rebuilding our roads and our bridges...
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on the heels of the michigan's right-to-work law. union leaders are focusing on upcoming gubernatorial elections. at the same time, looking at options on how to appeal the laws already in effect. the huffington post points out there's a slew of lawsuits, citizen's initiative, repealing legislation and line item veto. opponents' right-to-work laws are formulating a strategy of their own. if they got michigan perhaps this is where they'd move next. the top five states with unionized workforces. joining me democratic strategy steven albendor. high taxpayer debt could be the next after michigan. which next state might be in the cross hairs? >> the most interesting thing to me, indiana started this trend. all businesses started locating towards indiana. i'm originally from illinois. operations like a right-to-work state like indiana and now michigan, that puts a lot of pressure on people right now mop where are the jobs? essentially this is about jobs. what michigan is trying to do is get more competitive. people are leaving michigan beca
on the heels of the michigan's right-to-work law. union leaders are focusing on upcoming gubernatorial elections. at the same time, looking at options on how to appeal the laws already in effect. the huffington post points out there's a slew of lawsuits, citizen's initiative, repealing legislation and line item veto. opponents' right-to-work laws are formulating a strategy of their own. if they got michigan perhaps this is where they'd move next. the top five states with unionized workforces....
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in places like flint, michigan, and detroit, michigan. it's really tragic that if this is some kind of political gamesmanship to try to institute this right to work piece here in michigan, that it's sad. but i do think there are more than just political outcomes for the governor and for whatever wealthy cronies he has in his back pocket. at the end of the day when you have these right to work laws in place, the economic gap, the concentration of wealth in the top 2%, ceo payouts and ceo salaries can be higher when workers' wages are lower. >> julian, by our count seven 69 ten poorest states in the u.s. are right to work states. >> exactly. >> nine of the ten richest are not. >> that's true. >> why do they support this legislation claiming that it helps workers? it does the exact opposite. >> if you look at the right to work states, they generally tend to have lower wages, generally tend to have higher unemployment. the argument on the other side was economic growth, they tend to be growing faster. >> so that's the rick perry argument. >>
in places like flint, michigan, and detroit, michigan. it's really tragic that if this is some kind of political gamesmanship to try to institute this right to work piece here in michigan, that it's sad. but i do think there are more than just political outcomes for the governor and for whatever wealthy cronies he has in his back pocket. at the end of the day when you have these right to work laws in place, the economic gap, the concentration of wealth in the top 2%, ceo payouts and ceo...
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that built michigan. that is at the heart of the economic plan i been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to get more americans to learn the skills businesses are looking for right now and get kids the kind of education they need to succeed. i want to make sure america leads the world and research and clean energy. i want to put people back to work rebuilding our roads and bridges and schools. that is how we grow an economy. i want to bring down our deficit. i want to do it in a balanced and responsible way. i want to tax code the rewards. manufacturers are creating jobs right here in redbird -- redford and michigan and the united states of america. that is where we need to go. that is the country we need to build. when it comes to bringing up manufacturing to america, that is why i am here today. since 1938 detroit has been turning out some of the best engines in the world. over all those years generations of workers have walked through these doors. not just to punch a clock or pick
that built michigan. that is at the heart of the economic plan i been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to get more americans to learn the skills businesses are looking for right now and get kids the kind of education they need to succeed. i want to make sure america leads the world and research and clean energy. i want to put people back to work rebuilding our roads and bridges and schools. that is how we grow an economy. i want to bring down our deficit. i want to do...
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we've seen images of angry protesters in michigan heating up all over michigan, but despite the push back, the house there approved a right-to-work bill that governor rick snyder prepared to sign tomorrow. the governor joining us now from lansing. i know you are busy, seen the video all day, questions on what the law and what it is not, and the president weighed in on his version and i'll play what he says and want your reaction to it. >> what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this, what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions. david: "trying to take away your rights to bargain" is what what the bill is? >> not at all. it has nothing to do with collective bargaining. i believe in collective bargaining. this is about worker freedom, the union and workers, and this is a situation in which we're giving workers better freedom to choose than not have their dollars go to the union if they don't see value. in fact, i don't view it as anti-union, but the unions to accept up and why they add values to workers when workers see the va
we've seen images of angry protesters in michigan heating up all over michigan, but despite the push back, the house there approved a right-to-work bill that governor rick snyder prepared to sign tomorrow. the governor joining us now from lansing. i know you are busy, seen the video all day, questions on what the law and what it is not, and the president weighed in on his version and i'll play what he says and want your reaction to it. >> what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this, what...
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it's important to michigan. two suburban school districts in and around detroit have shut down, because teachers won't be available to be in class, because hundreds of teachers are taking personal days to come here to have their voices heard as well. so one little facet of this, showing how important it is to the state. >> alison kosik, live in michigan, thank you very much. >>> six minutes after the hour. he's the warrior and hero who helped free an american doctor from the taliban. more about nicholas cheque. hard working, enthusiastic, joined the navy in 2002 after graduating from high school. checque received the bronze star during his ten-year career. a real true life hero. >> a life taken too soon. >>> it appears syria has gotten the message it should not use chemical weapons against rebels trying to overthrow the assad regime. >> we haven't seen anything new indicating any aggressive steps to move forward in that way. but we continue to monitor it very closely and we continue to make clear to them that th
it's important to michigan. two suburban school districts in and around detroit have shut down, because teachers won't be available to be in class, because hundreds of teachers are taking personal days to come here to have their voices heard as well. so one little facet of this, showing how important it is to the state. >> alison kosik, live in michigan, thank you very much. >>> six minutes after the hour. he's the warrior and hero who helped free an american doctor from the...
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aspercreme. >>> we are back with steven moore and jackie calms, michigan in this sort of methodic, at least in terms of the political times right now t electric chur passes a right to work law in michigan, kind of at least one of the cradles of the union and it would mean that you wouldn't have to join a union, it would haven't to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> this just came out of the blue and the republicans just got their ducks in a row and they control the house and the senate and the governor ship in the senate, even though it's a state that barack obama carried. they got this through in the house and senate. it's a big deal, it's a poison pill for the eurounions, they h right to work. a lot of new businesses when they're looking at building new factories or building new plants, they won't even consider states that are not right to work. so much of the growth in this country is in the right to work states. so i think economically, if it passes, it will be probably tuesday or wednesday when we get a final vote on this, i think it puts michigan, a state with a 10%, 11% un
aspercreme. >>> we are back with steven moore and jackie calms, michigan in this sort of methodic, at least in terms of the political times right now t electric chur passes a right to work law in michigan, kind of at least one of the cradles of the union and it would mean that you wouldn't have to join a union, it would haven't to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> this just came out of the blue and the republicans just got their ducks in a row and they control the house and...
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geiss, the michigan state democrat saying there will be blood if they do this in michigan. jay carney said, well, i didn't see that comment. doesn't sounds like it necessarily means what you are implying it means but the president likes civil debate in general and that's what we want to see in michigan. >> reporter: remember a few years back in 2009-2010 in the leadup to the obama-care vote, the tea party was described as brown shirts, racists, astro turf protesters. they were kind of phoney protesters. they weren't real grassroots people. they were accused of so many things. and there was no violence. fairly peaceful in their protests and gathering'. but this happened yesterday and there is a big yawn from the collective media, and frankly a flat liner reaction from the white house press secretary jay carney. if the shoe were on the other foot we know what would be happening. we would have a round of condemnation from democrats and republicans as well who would say there is no place for this. these are innocent lawful americans expressing their first amendment rights. they
geiss, the michigan state democrat saying there will be blood if they do this in michigan. jay carney said, well, i didn't see that comment. doesn't sounds like it necessarily means what you are implying it means but the president likes civil debate in general and that's what we want to see in michigan. >> reporter: remember a few years back in 2009-2010 in the leadup to the obama-care vote, the tea party was described as brown shirts, racists, astro turf protesters. they were kind of...
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david: president obama visiting a michigan auto plants today discussed in a fiscal crisis. our next guest argues in the long run they could see strong auto sales if ther there's no d% all. joining us now, edmunds.com chief economist. good to see you. how would we be better off if we go for the fiscal cliff at least in auto sales? @> we're better off because we're taking hard medicine now. do we want pay now and better later, or suffer now and not be better off later. lots of fixing to do. if we get a stronger growth path for taking more heart medicine now, that bodes well for the entire economy including auto sales. david: your bi are basically wht a compromise compromise will not solve anything. right? >> or worse, some that just extends the uncertainty. eventually compromise anything. no compromise at all because that is what is killing us right now, we're just played with this vast amount of uncertainty. business is almost paralyzed afraid to move forward with hiring, investing and is paralyzing the whole economy really been abll to move forward. david: how many folks ar
david: president obama visiting a michigan auto plants today discussed in a fiscal crisis. our next guest argues in the long run they could see strong auto sales if ther there's no d% all. joining us now, edmunds.com chief economist. good to see you. how would we be better off if we go for the fiscal cliff at least in auto sales? @> we're better off because we're taking hard medicine now. do we want pay now and better later, or suffer now and not be better off later. lots of fixing to do. if...
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how do you think it will change things in the state of michigan? fifth iest union state in the country. >> it's showing you what is happening in the rust belt. you have had it happen in wisconsin and indiana. weakening of the grip of unions. we saw when the auto went in collapse, auto company in the south, transplants did well because they weren't saddled with the union wages but also the union work rules, which are insane. so i think will be l be loosening of the grip. way to stay competitive. >> astonishing this is all happening in the heart of union land, historically. i will add to charles, because it's the lightning round that ohio is next possibility. harder go there. it would have to be done by ballot initiative, weakening the union. >> john: five seconds or less. >> i agree with everything they said and the key is eliminating the dues check off on the public sector union of michigan because that is where the democratic party gets its money. >> john: senate voted for. see where that goes. thank you all. that is it for the panel. stay tuned t
how do you think it will change things in the state of michigan? fifth iest union state in the country. >> it's showing you what is happening in the rust belt. you have had it happen in wisconsin and indiana. weakening of the grip of unions. we saw when the auto went in collapse, auto company in the south, transplants did well because they weren't saddled with the union wages but also the union work rules, which are insane. so i think will be l be loosening of the grip. way to stay...
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michigan. massive crowds gathering at the state capitol. they're protesting the state's right to work law. the lawmakers set to cast the final votes inside that building this morning. we understand the governor is very ready to sign that into law. very controversial situation going on live in lansing. good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you are here in america's nice room. >> i'm gregg jarrett in for bill gregg: the right to work vote will mean unions will no longer force workers to pay dues. that the birthplace of the powerful united auto workers union. martha: this has huge national implications over the power of organized labor. governor rick snyder believes there will be more job. he believes the protests hurt more than they help. here he is. >> if you go forward you will create a environment involving labor issues this could rise to the lebl level where i might not keep it off my agenda. i'm not happy about being in this situation. >> he has the responsibility as our leader avoi
michigan. massive crowds gathering at the state capitol. they're protesting the state's right to work law. the lawmakers set to cast the final votes inside that building this morning. we understand the governor is very ready to sign that into law. very controversial situation going on live in lansing. good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you are here in america's nice room. >> i'm gregg jarrett in for bill gregg: the right to work vote will mean unions will no longer force...
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i'm curious about the rank-and-file union members in michigan or the people in michigan, what are they thinking or saying about this battle? >> we've heard really from both sides. there's a group that support right to work that say they want more freedom from their unions but more accountability from their unions. right to work could give them that. the other side which is obviously the more loud voice right now of unions saying this will diminish their power and influence and hurt workers leading to fewer jobs, lower wages, and that sort of consequences. >> greta: would it be fair to say that the popularity of unions in michigans is split? >> i don't know if you could say it's split. i mean, obviously one side is louder than the other at this point. it's hard to tell. >> greta: indeed, we've seen the storming of your state capitol. that's been quite a sight which has certainly put a national spotlight on this. i don't know if it's something the unions and the governor want, but you sure got it. >> definitely. it looks like come tuesday that could be the same as well and if not possibl
i'm curious about the rank-and-file union members in michigan or the people in michigan, what are they thinking or saying about this battle? >> we've heard really from both sides. there's a group that support right to work that say they want more freedom from their unions but more accountability from their unions. right to work could give them that. the other side which is obviously the more loud voice right now of unions saying this will diminish their power and influence and hurt...
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a big union fight in michigan. michigan the home of the powerful auto unions could become a right to work state. the governor is expected to sign a new law tomorrow, right to work, michigan, 24th state. unions have been protesting and bigger demonstrations are planned. listen to this: stuart: got pretty noisy. all right, all rise, judge andrew napolitano is here. judge, welcome back. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: now i think -- if a state becomes right to work, essentially that means that a union may not force its members to contribute dues. union membership becomes voluntary. am i right? >> well i would state it slightly differently, but we end up at the same point. in a right to work state, the state does not force people to join unions. stuart: okay. >> in a nonright to work state, it is a law that you join or contribute to the unions. so if you choose not to join, your employer is required to deduct from your salary the dues for the union and remit it to the union, whether you physically join, sign up the paper
a big union fight in michigan. michigan the home of the powerful auto unions could become a right to work state. the governor is expected to sign a new law tomorrow, right to work, michigan, 24th state. unions have been protesting and bigger demonstrations are planned. listen to this: stuart: got pretty noisy. all right, all rise, judge andrew napolitano is here. judge, welcome back. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: now i think -- if a state becomes right to work, essentially that means that...
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i think one of the democratic state senators in michigan said that thereai will be blood. what kind of comment is that from an elected official and why is it being tolerated? i always think the networks and the new york sometimes and others have a real obligation to cover union violence when it occurs and not hide it. i think you're raising a good point. it's one that we should be aggressive in demanding that the president call on his allies to exercise discipline and civility. >> sean: do you remember duringy the tea party rallies? you were speaking about the s media. the media would search high and low and they would be looking for something negative that the tea party movement was saying, and usually there were kids on their dads' shoulders and they'd hear patriotic speeches and say the pledge of allegiance and god bless america and leave the place cleaner than when they found it. i ask you through this prism as they compare this to the tea party. there was a vendor in the tent, a hot dog guy, been working there for 16 years. i interviewed this man on my radio program.
i think one of the democratic state senators in michigan said that thereai will be blood. what kind of comment is that from an elected official and why is it being tolerated? i always think the networks and the new york sometimes and others have a real obligation to cover union violence when it occurs and not hide it. i think you're raising a good point. it's one that we should be aggressive in demanding that the president call on his allies to exercise discipline and civility. >> sean:...
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if governor snyder signs this bill in michigan as expected, michigan would be the most heavily unionized right to work state in the country. alison kosik, describe what's happening now. demonstrators are starting to gather outside of the capitol. are they going to be allowed inside as this historic legislation is passed? >> reporter: they are inside right now as well as outside, so behind me you've got several hundred protesters that began arriving, even before daylight, with their signs, some inflatable rafts, often a symbol of union protests, sitting on the lawn outside here and inside, yes, there are protesters inside, especially right where the gallery is, right where the house floor is, because they want to watch the house in action when it begins in session at 10:00 a.m. in about an hour, so they'll be able to watch the legislative process at work. but there's a huge spillover crowd inside the capitol building, a huge crowd, a couple hundred, in each rotunda on three floors chanting, you can hear their voices inside the capital, once you walk in, you can hear their voices reverb ra
if governor snyder signs this bill in michigan as expected, michigan would be the most heavily unionized right to work state in the country. alison kosik, describe what's happening now. demonstrators are starting to gather outside of the capitol. are they going to be allowed inside as this historic legislation is passed? >> reporter: they are inside right now as well as outside, so behind me you've got several hundred protesters that began arriving, even before daylight, with their signs,...
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this is not uniting michigan. this is dividing michigan. jeff: you lost proposition two. you lost that. the governor said that if i know why he brought this to the floor. >> the governor had signed a number of right-wing bills. teachers would not have, be able to outdo deductions. it was crazy. we see the pattern. we try to preempt that by getting proposition two. too many things on the ballot. we did not pass that. we are here to fight that. jeff: great to talk to you. the economy goes on. we will see what the impact of this is. we will give you one more look of the crowd outside the michigan capital. no violence, thus far. dagen: jeff flock, thank you very much. connell: judge andrew napolitano. the president, president obama actually hit on this yesterday. saying the state has the right to work does not mean it takes away the rights of the union. >> right. in a right to work state, what that means is you have the right to a job in the government cannot force you to join a union or if you refuse to join, take dues and give it to the union. the government and say join th
this is not uniting michigan. this is dividing michigan. jeff: you lost proposition two. you lost that. the governor said that if i know why he brought this to the floor. >> the governor had signed a number of right-wing bills. teachers would not have, be able to outdo deductions. it was crazy. we see the pattern. we try to preempt that by getting proposition two. too many things on the ballot. we did not pass that. we are here to fight that. jeff: great to talk to you. the economy goes...
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the michigan senate just followed the statehouse and has now passed a bill to make michigan a right-to-work state. the vote was 22-10-16, if i have that right. just minutes ago on this program, governor reiick snyder said he would sign the bill. now that it's passed, looks like it's going to happen. imagine that. the union workers' paradise going right to work. >>> residents of the los angeles area seniors complex are up in arms over the owner's order to take down the christmas tree because they're religious symbols. the company's owned the complex for four years and won't comment about the order. people who live there a while say this has never happened before. we say, drop the ban and light up that tree and the minoras. let there be no secular tyranny. by the way, they are christmas trees. don't forget that. >>> for a moment, forget about the fiscal cliff. the u.s. is already in a recession and has been since july, according to my next guest. here now with details on this recession call is lakshman achuthan, the distinguished co-founder and chief operating officer of the economic cycle re
the michigan senate just followed the statehouse and has now passed a bill to make michigan a right-to-work state. the vote was 22-10-16, if i have that right. just minutes ago on this program, governor reiick snyder said he would sign the bill. now that it's passed, looks like it's going to happen. imagine that. the union workers' paradise going right to work. >>> residents of the los angeles area seniors complex are up in arms over the owner's order to take down the christmas tree...
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for michigan workers. you have hard working people in michigan. this is giving workers choice. >> republicans lost five seats in the michigan legislature last month and democrats accused them of fast tracking the right to work bill through the house and senate in a single day last week to get it done before the new legislature takes office next month. the democratic members of congress tried to pressure legislators not to approve the bill. they were scolded by the state house speaker for pressuring lansing instead of dealing with the fiscal cliff. >> gretchen: wendell goler, thanks very much. >> steve: let's switch down to our nation's capitol and at the bureau, you can see -- >> you guys, doocy and everybody that -- you guys look like you should break out into "i'll be home for christmas" with that set. i mean, boling, come on, you got to chime in. this is unbelievable! ♪ the most wonderful time of the year ♪ ♪ . >> andy williams is rolling over in his grave right now. >> eric: i wore my christmas t
for michigan workers. you have hard working people in michigan. this is giving workers choice. >> republicans lost five seats in the michigan legislature last month and democrats accused them of fast tracking the right to work bill through the house and senate in a single day last week to get it done before the new legislature takes office next month. the democratic members of congress tried to pressure legislators not to approve the bill. they were scolded by the state house speaker for...
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today i'll be talking to carrie mosse they sell you about protests related to a bill that could turn michigan into a right to work state and also be talking author georgetown university professor a doll as gander about egypt unfinished revolution with only a few weeks left in two thousand and twelve all examine us to offense.
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it happened yesterday in michigan. michigan became the 24th state to pass right to work legislation. what that means is you no long have to join a union. >> brian: you can if you want! you absolutely can. >> steve: you just don't have to join it. which is terrific because there are a lot of people who don't want to. you look at right to work states versus unionized states and right to work states, people actually are doing quite well when it comes to unemployment. this all got started with a one-day drive last week that really surprised the united auto workers, otherwise they would have had their ducks lined up in a row before that. it turned into the legislation that passed and was signed by the governor yesterday. if you missed how it all came together, let's take you back a couple of days. start with the president of the united states when he was actually in michigan and bring you up to yesterday. >> what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages. they're talking about givi
it happened yesterday in michigan. michigan became the 24th state to pass right to work legislation. what that means is you no long have to join a union. >> brian: you can if you want! you absolutely can. >> steve: you just don't have to join it. which is terrific because there are a lot of people who don't want to. you look at right to work states versus unionized states and right to work states, people actually are doing quite well when it comes to unemployment. this all got...
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michigan workers get up every day to literally build, grow and make michigan a fantastic state. they deserve much better respect than that. >> brian: there was a referendum on the ballot to make michigan a permanent union state. how did that go? >> it was overwhelmingly rejected by the voters of our state. it was an overreach and i think the voters spoke very clearly against putting that in our state constitution. >> brian: how do you defuse the anger, if the majority of people are in your camp on this, how do you defuse the anger before the 10 to 15 at least that are upset and the thousands of school teachers that didn't go to work on tuesday in protest? >> as we saw, again, much of those protesters were brought if from out of state. what i think we need to do is focus on michigan's workers. i think we need to focus now, the unions will remain free to make their case. but now michigan workers will become free to make their choice. and ultimately i think this is about opportunity. this is about new jobs and better careers for michigan workers. michigan's brightest days are in fr
michigan workers get up every day to literally build, grow and make michigan a fantastic state. they deserve much better respect than that. >> brian: there was a referendum on the ballot to make michigan a permanent union state. how did that go? >> it was overwhelmingly rejected by the voters of our state. it was an overreach and i think the voters spoke very clearly against putting that in our state constitution. >> brian: how do you defuse the anger, if the majority of...
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we want to begin in michigan. take a look. >> we are -- >> union. >> the sound of protesters chanting, filled the state house gallery in lansing, while inside the capital chamber the republican-led legislature passed not just one, two right to work bills. one was for the public workers. the second, which passed moments ago, covers workers in the private sector. with the passing of both bills here, michigan will become the 24th right to work state, all that is left for that to happen, for the republican governor to sign it. rick snyder promises to do exactly that, probably tomorrow. look at more pictures we have for you here. more than 12,000 protesters gathered in freezing temperatures. i think i saw some snow falling earlier there in lansing as the lawmakers were inside, voting. and, against the odds, democrats waged a final losing battle. poppy harlow, let me bring you in there, amidst all of this in lansing. set the scene for me, now that we know, poppy, both the bills passed. what is the reaction like in the c
we want to begin in michigan. take a look. >> we are -- >> union. >> the sound of protesters chanting, filled the state house gallery in lansing, while inside the capital chamber the republican-led legislature passed not just one, two right to work bills. one was for the public workers. the second, which passed moments ago, covers workers in the private sector. with the passing of both bills here, michigan will become the 24th right to work state, all that is left for that to...
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we'll listen to governor rick snyder of michigan. >> in the unions are strong in michigan and they did a lot of good in terms of work issues . people wanted to join the union. but today we give the workers a choice and give them an opportunity to say do we want to belong to the union. i don't see it antiunion. workers should want to join and be part. it is a worker choice . the second thing it is economic development. we watched what went on in indiana. they have seen a significant increase talking about thousands of jobs to their state. >> steve: that's what it is it about. think about the jobs. yesterday on the program, 24 hours ago. stewart varney talked about how the city of detroit looking to washington d.c. for a bailout. the city of dedroit only have thee million in the bank. they need a bailout or hand out toward the federal government because they overwhelmingly in wayne county voted for the president of the united states. sounds like they are heading for bankruptcy. >> brian: do you know what your elected officials are doing. passing a bill to ban the word lunatic. >> gretche
we'll listen to governor rick snyder of michigan. >> in the unions are strong in michigan and they did a lot of good in terms of work issues . people wanted to join the union. but today we give the workers a choice and give them an opportunity to say do we want to belong to the union. i don't see it antiunion. workers should want to join and be part. it is a worker choice . the second thing it is economic development. we watched what went on in indiana. they have seen a significant...
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also labor issues not only making headlines in michigan, but broadway theaters may go dark thanks to a looming strike. we will have the details on that coming up next. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, m breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike mt copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including advair could help improve your lung function. get your first full prescription free and save on refills at advaircopd.com. tracy: breaking news that secretary john boehner is returning
also labor issues not only making headlines in michigan, but broadway theaters may go dark thanks to a looming strike. we will have the details on that coming up next. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, m breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike mt copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all...
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that's why in the last election which -- and frankly some michigan legislators -- one of the reasons they raced for it was because they weren't going to be able to do it after january 1st. >> eliot: republicans still have the majority in the house and senate. it seems to me everybody understands inequality is growing. everybody understands unions represent fewer or smaller percentage of the american work force every year. everybody understands the negotiating power of workers is diminishing and somehow out of that doesn't come what should, you and i think should follow therefore i support the effort to support collective bargaining to give workers the right to be more powerful. how do we make the last leap more visible to the public? >> number one we need -- well, i have a couple of theories about this. number one citizens united has actually hurt this hugely because the way in which you run for office you need a lot of money and you get a lot of money from a lot of hedge fund folk and rich cats. as a result, you are seeing a very tepid response by a lot of elected officials who priv
that's why in the last election which -- and frankly some michigan legislators -- one of the reasons they raced for it was because they weren't going to be able to do it after january 1st. >> eliot: republicans still have the majority in the house and senate. it seems to me everybody understands inequality is growing. everybody understands unions represent fewer or smaller percentage of the american work force every year. everybody understands the negotiating power of workers is...
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allen in michigan. >> jim, booyah. i'm holding sprint and i've had a descent gain. i don't want you to take that gain. i want to buy one. do not sell sprint it is a good one. matt in michigan. i was wondering about toyota or ford. i pulled up with the subaru guy. i prefer ford to toyota. >> tracy in arkansas. >> yes, booyah. >> ctlp or cplp. >> okay yeah. it is an mlp. we are going with the tried and true. let's go to bo in missouri. i don't think it does anything either way. i want to buy berkshire hathaway. let's go to corey. >> how about the red skins? >> alfred morris has put me 7 and 6. the pringles is good. management has it together and that is for me. and that is the conclusion of the lightening rount. coming up. rise above. cramer is keeping you one stead ahead. tonight he is getting information from the ceo of national bank. na fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll
allen in michigan. >> jim, booyah. i'm holding sprint and i've had a descent gain. i don't want you to take that gain. i want to buy one. do not sell sprint it is a good one. matt in michigan. i was wondering about toyota or ford. i pulled up with the subaru guy. i prefer ford to toyota. >> tracy in arkansas. >> yes, booyah. >> ctlp or cplp. >> okay yeah. it is an mlp. we are going with the tried and true. let's go to bo in missouri. i don't think it does anything...
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raymond, cleo, michigan, democratic caller. go ahead. caller: yes, i have a two-part question. i was wondering for one, i'm going to be retiring here in another 12 years, but i'm not going to have social security until probably the age of 70. i'm 50 now. i was wondering, right now if i was to lose my job for some unforeseen reason, i will lose my benefits. i have the option as an employee to keep my benefits at about an $800 cost. but when senators and the congressmen step out of their position, i'm not mistaking, they still have their insurance for life. and in the second part question that i'm posing is, i believe they're going to get a 3% pay raise every year. i've never seen in my lifetime them stop that. i was wondering if that's something that could possibly be done? host: isabel sawhill. guest: i assume what you were talking about, if you lose your job you would lose your benefits, you mean primarily your health care benefits. you're right. you would lose them. under the affordable care act, once it's implemented in 2014, that would enable you to go on an exchange and bu
raymond, cleo, michigan, democratic caller. go ahead. caller: yes, i have a two-part question. i was wondering for one, i'm going to be retiring here in another 12 years, but i'm not going to have social security until probably the age of 70. i'm 50 now. i was wondering, right now if i was to lose my job for some unforeseen reason, i will lose my benefits. i have the option as an employee to keep my benefits at about an $800 cost. but when senators and the congressmen step out of their...
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traveled to michigan yesterday. john boehner went on the floor and said i need to see their spending cuts. that's what's going on in the public level. privately staff are working together and the fundamentals remain in place for a deal. don't know if it's before or after christmas or before new years or just after it, but i believe will happen. >> all the vacations are planned, right? >> we've reached one of the weirdest days because speaker boehner came out and said the president has not offered specific spending cuts and the president says we've offered spending cuts and it's gotten to this point of childish points and these guys are saying did not and these guys are saying did, too, and these guys again saying did not. i agree with john. they need to get really close then because then there's a sense of urgency and that's what they feel like they can get the votes to get this done right up to the edge of disaster. >> it's not he said, she said. they have put out spending cuts. >> $600 billion that the president t
traveled to michigan yesterday. john boehner went on the floor and said i need to see their spending cuts. that's what's going on in the public level. privately staff are working together and the fundamentals remain in place for a deal. don't know if it's before or after christmas or before new years or just after it, but i believe will happen. >> all the vacations are planned, right? >> we've reached one of the weirdest days because speaker boehner came out and said the president...
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jeff flock is in lansing michigan covering the story for us. i thought it was interesting how you covered the scene there with michigan a few years back, excuse me, wisconsin. >> wisconsin, exactly. not the same kind of intensity. part of that is because this is already pretty much a done deal. there they had not a teacher headed off. the second one being debated right now. but renew over here to the scene of the george romney state office building. george romney, former governor of wisconsin, and father of mitt romney. the large group of protesters are trying to get into the crowd and see. they have essentially ringed the entrance of the building trying to make their voices heard. they feel very frustrated. they feel this had passed in a lame duck session without the opportunity for there to be more debate about it. that is their feeling. at this point you mentioned a little bit of white you could call it violence. nothing serious at this point, but we want to keep an eye on this because there are lots of folks, pretty hard to believe michigan
jeff flock is in lansing michigan covering the story for us. i thought it was interesting how you covered the scene there with michigan a few years back, excuse me, wisconsin. >> wisconsin, exactly. not the same kind of intensity. part of that is because this is already pretty much a done deal. there they had not a teacher headed off. the second one being debated right now. but renew over here to the scene of the george romney state office building. george romney, former governor of...
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here's the headline out of michigan. 85,000. 85,000 michiganders losing unemployment benefits. here's the palm beach post, 115,000 floridians being cut at the end of the year. 43,000 in connecticut could lose unemployment benefits. a few minutes ago, you heard jeff merkley of oregon mention, i believe, the 30,000 in oregon. one of the things that has been lost in all the fiscal cliff wrangling over the last couple of months is something really dramatic will happen really soon that will affect a ton of people who cannot, cannot afford it. four days from now, if washington cannot find a way to get its act together, 2 million people will lose their unemployment benefits. all at once. they will go all go away. unemployment insurance is different from the other parts of the fiscal cliff in that way. there are tricks we can play on, say, the pack side. we can change withholdings so you don't notice it. and on the spending side, instead of laying off people, we can furlough them. there are things we can do in a lot of parts of the fiscal cliff, if we do over for a week, two weeks, may
here's the headline out of michigan. 85,000. 85,000 michiganders losing unemployment benefits. here's the palm beach post, 115,000 floridians being cut at the end of the year. 43,000 in connecticut could lose unemployment benefits. a few minutes ago, you heard jeff merkley of oregon mention, i believe, the 30,000 in oregon. one of the things that has been lost in all the fiscal cliff wrangling over the last couple of months is something really dramatic will happen really soon that will affect a...